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Old 10-04-2009, 05:33 PM   #16
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ut oh....


Look what just got posted up on KSL....

Crew cab, 7.3 diesel, 4 speed Allison and best of all..........ITS A INTERNATIONAL!!!

Doesnt hurt that the price is only 3500 and it has 12,888 miles on it!



build a big ol plate bumper for the front.....I might be sold!
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Old 10-04-2009, 05:39 PM   #17
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There was a cool build on pirate kinda like you are looking for. Here is the site.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=735740
I liked the idea but, it really is a purpose built rig. Not something the Mrs. is going to want to drive to the grocery store. Any medium duty truck is going to be a purpose only rig. Need to take something to the dump, you need a pickup truck, not a F-700 medium duty truck. The motor that is in your current tow rig can trace it's roots all the way back to 1959. This is the same basic design that was used in over the road trucks before President Eisenhower signed the Interstate bill in 1956. What I am getting at is you have the right motor in your current rig. It is not breaking a sweat moving your junk to and from the trail head. Even Sprueitt will attest to the motor and its working abilities. If you are not overloaded (i.e. over the GCWR of your truck) I would not worry about it.

Didn't you say how impressed you were with your rig hauling to and from Cali for TTC? In fact I remember you posting, "I will have this set up for a long time to come." Wasn't that in June of this year? Take it from me, bigger is not always better.

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It has nothing to do with the truck. I really do like it! (even tho I miss my Superduty still)

Its just a conveinience factor. Idaho Top Truck kind of opened my eyes to it. I pulled up and set my tent trailer up on the trailer at Lehi's house. I was going to have to take the tent trailer down, load the Scout back up and then repeat the process at the end of the day but Lehi towed me over to the park. He was just going to tow me back again but a guy there with a roll off tow truck offered to haul it back for me.

It fit perfect on his bed and I just thought.....that would kick a$$


Plus Stan just getting one doesnt help
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Old 10-04-2009, 05:55 PM   #18
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I'm with you Cheston-get it!
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Old 10-04-2009, 06:01 PM   #19
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thats the only problem is I have to sell some stuff to free up some cash. He does say for sale or trade tho? I better give him a call
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Old 10-04-2009, 06:10 PM   #20
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No luck for me!


He sold it already! Been posted up for 1 1/2 hours
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Old 10-04-2009, 06:13 PM   #21
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Looks like its not that bad of a deal
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Old 10-04-2009, 06:14 PM   #22
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its also gone now too
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oh should have looked up first
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There is a cabover semi for 5500 on there too
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Old 10-04-2009, 06:41 PM   #25
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There is a cabover semi for 5500 on there too
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One other concern (sort of) is how big of a truck can you drive until you need a cdl?

I would love to get my cdl I just havent done it yet.
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You could do what the guy on Pirate did very easy
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Maybe I should look into something like that. My issue is I'm trying to find something that I can drive every day and tow with and haul hay and carry the family, didn't think about when the burb is totally not street legal.
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Old 10-04-2009, 07:43 PM   #28
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Plus Stan just getting one doesnt help
Ask Stan how well that big ol' truck did. I would put money on his old tow rig pulling circles around his new one. Stan's problem was weight. It had nothing to do with the Dodge dually pulling or handling the load. Any medium truck is kind of already behind the que ball. They have the exact same motor as any other 1 ton truck, Duramax, Cummins, and Powerstorke. Plus they weigh more and have to use more power just to get themselves out of their own way. Someone will chime in here and tell me that I am full of it and that the medium duty truck is the only way to go. Maybe, but what else can you do with a truck that big? Sure they have larger axles, lower gears, more gears in the tranny, and that may make up for their lack of power or even their more portly weight. But, can they haul from your house to Cali and back at 70 mph and get as good of fuel mileage as you got. What was it you got again? 12+ mpg? A medium duty truck may get that empty.

Your dually is just begging for some computer tuning. All of the ground work has already been done for you. Larger turbo, exhaust, intake and the like. The International you were looking at had what, 200 horsepower max? Your current rig is putting out more than that now. Plus it weighs less. If you were over the limit of what you truck should be hauling, I say should be not could be, then maybe it is time to look at a bigger rig. If your Scout weighs 7,000 and your tent trailer is, what maybe 1,500, and your flat bed weighs 4,000 you are still okay. Only 12,500 total. For a truck that can haul 16,000 you are barely working it at all. If you are trying to keep up with the Prueitt's forget it. You need six wheel drive and you have to have six wheels on everything you take with you, tow rig, trailer, and off road rig.

I sold Stan all the tuning hardware on his old tow rig. He never had it fueled up all the way, that I know of. His new D-max is just an old LLY motor. The same motor that Chevy and GMC put into their 3/4 trucks. With half the weight.

So, now that I am towards the end of my novel, if you are over weight then a medium duty is the way to go. (Think insurance liability here). If you are just wanting to extend your man hood, okay, get the larger truck. If you are just wanting one to keep up with the Pureitt's forget it. He will be the first one to tell you that the little 1 ton was enough to pull and haul his big green beast anywhere he wanted to go.

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Here you go Cheston, I found a web site sure to blow up your skirt.
http://www.sportchassis.com/

If that doesn't do it nothing will.

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LLY? sorry to here it.
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